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Aug 26 15:00:22 <Jookia>	I dunno man.
Aug 26 15:00:58 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: as for the Linux is not meant to be really much like Windows stuff, well sure, check this out, if you haven't already, nice long read. http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
Aug 26 15:00:59 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Linux is NOT Windows .::. Size~: 47.1 KB
Aug 26 15:01:07 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: anwyay we have two types of distro
Aug 26 15:01:13 <sebsebseb>	the commercial distros, and the community distros
Aug 26 15:01:21 <sebsebseb>	the commecial distros are about making money,  Ubuntu is a good example of that
Aug 26 15:01:32 <sebsebseb>	they have a commercial sponser behind them a company yep
Aug 26 15:01:36 <MinceR>	sometimes it's worse than just making money
Aug 26 15:01:45 <Jookia>	sebsebseb: I've read that, excellent read.
Aug 26 15:01:47 <MinceR>	see the various editions of m$ linux
Aug 26 15:01:53 <Jookia>	I started using Linux back in 2005ish.
Aug 26 15:02:06 <sebsebseb>	a community distro has a community of programmers behind it.  They exist, because of donations,  Debian and PC Linux OS, are community distros
Aug 26 15:02:37 <sebsebseb>	really Fedora  and OpenSuse are community distros as well though,  but Fedora helps Redhat Enterprise Linux here and there, and OpenSuse will help  Novell Enterprise Suse Linux here and there.
Aug 26 15:02:53 <Jookia>	I have a question about Red hat
Aug 26 15:02:57 <Jookia>	What evil has it committed?
Aug 26 15:02:58 <cubevector>	darkstar and Yggdrasil early on
Aug 26 15:03:05 <sebsebseb>	and yeah obviously Fedora gets funding from Redhat, and OpenSuse from Novell
Aug 26 15:03:07 <cubevector>	I think darkstar might still be around
Aug 26 15:03:37 <sebsebseb>	and the commercial distros tend to want to win quite a lot of Windows and Mac OS X users
Aug 26 15:03:38 <sebsebseb>	over
Aug 26 15:03:44 <Jookia>	I started with Ubuntu
Aug 26 15:03:47 <ThistleWeb>	lol
Aug 26 15:03:48 <sebsebseb>	where as Debian I don't think so, and PC Linux OS, wants to compete agaisnt Ubuntu :)
Aug 26 15:03:58 <ThistleWeb>	<sebsebseb> over  << lobin the CB stuff
Aug 26 15:04:00 <ThistleWeb>	over
Aug 26 15:04:02 <Jookia>	Red Hat seems to be non-evil.
Aug 26 15:04:02 <cubevector>	darkstar in 1994 was my first Linux
Aug 26 15:04:12 <sebsebseb>	ThistleWeb: What?
Aug 26 15:04:12 <Jookia>	I wasn't even born in 1994.
Aug 26 15:04:34 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: I started with Fedora Core 2 in 2004 :)
Aug 26 15:04:42 <ThistleWeb>	CB talk, where ya had to end each sentence with "over" or "over and out" so the other person could talk
Aug 26 15:04:45 <cubevector>	youngsters ;-)
Aug 26 15:04:51 <sebsebseb>	however I had no Internet, since my Dad woudn't hardwire my bed room, and I coudn't get that stupid wireless device working I had instead, since I was newbie
Aug 26 15:05:06 <Jookia>	Fedora Core 2?
Aug 26 15:05:08 <ThistleWeb>	think US cops from old TV shows
Aug 26 15:05:15 <sebsebseb>	ThistleWeb: CB talk what?
Aug 26 15:05:17 <cubevector>	I'm still running fc1
Aug 26 15:05:29 <sebsebseb>	ThistleWeb: oh you mean make it more clear, where I am ending?
Aug 26 15:05:30 <Jookia>	...
Aug 26 15:05:30 <ThistleWeb>	it was a joke, dont worry about it
Aug 26 15:05:34 <sebsebseb>	ThistleWeb: since I tend to type on more than one line?
Aug 26 15:05:41 <Jookia>	Why uh.. Why not upgrade from FC1?
Aug 26 15:05:45 <cubevector>	not using it at the moment
Aug 26 15:05:57 <cubevector>	main reason: Loki and older LGP games
Aug 26 15:06:00 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: when I started with Desktop Linux, Fedora Core 2 wa the latest Fedora
Aug 26 15:06:03 <Jookia>	Ah.
Aug 26 15:06:09 <cubevector>	plus it does what I want already
Aug 26 15:06:13 <Jookia>	sebsebseb: I was talking to cubevector.
Aug 26 15:06:13 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: so yep a bit before Ubuntu came along
Aug 26 15:06:21 <sebsebseb>	Jookia: as for cubevector
Aug 26 15:06:23 <sebsebseb>	he likes using old Fedora
Aug 26 15:06:34 <cubevector>	and 2.2 Linux too
Aug 26 15:06:36 <sebsebseb>	sometimes older versions of distros,  are quite a lot better than newer versiosn
Aug 26 15:06:39 <Jookia>	Fedora Core 5 included Mono
Aug 26 15:06:39 <cubevector>	not just old Fedora
Aug 26 15:07:08 <cubevector>	I'm pre-Mono
Aug 26 15:07:09 <sebsebseb>	and sometimes older Desktop Environments are quite a lot better really, yep I am on about KDE 3 here :)
Aug 26 15:07:21 <cubevector>	exactly so
Aug 26 15:07:34 <sebsebseb>	exactly so to what?
Aug 26 15:07:43 <cubevector>	that's why I switched to vector on my "newer" computer
Aug 26 15:07:54 <cubevector>	to run KDE 3.5.10
Aug 26 15:08:21 <Jookia>	Ah
Aug 26 15:08:26 <Jookia>	I don't use KDE
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Aug 26 15:08:43 <Jookia>	I've actually become so disconnected from the actual DE that now I just use OpenBox, Tint2 and tunar.
Aug 26 15:08:44 <Jookia>	thunar*
Aug 26 15:09:20 <sebsebseb>	cubevector: VectorLinux uses KDE 4 now by default I thought?
Aug 26 15:09:54 <cubevector>	this is Vector 6 classic :)
Aug 26 15:10:00 <cubevector>	yeah there's several versions
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Aug 26 15:10:05 <sebsebseb>	and Grub 2 :(
Aug 26 15:10:07 <sebsebseb>	Grub :)
Aug 26 15:10:10 <sebsebseb>	and GDM 2 :(
Aug 26 15:10:12 <sebsebseb>	old one :)
Aug 26 15:10:16 <sebsebseb>	and yeah newer really isn't always better
Aug 26 15:10:29 <Jookia>	Well
Aug 26 15:10:35 <Jookia>	You still update your packages right?
Aug 26 15:10:37 <cubevector>	look at Xerox Star videos on youtube sometime
Aug 26 15:10:45 <sebsebseb>	whats that?
Aug 26 15:10:47 <cubevector>	and you'll see what Xerox was doing in 1981
Aug 26 15:10:49 <sebsebseb>	oh Xerox
Aug 26 15:10:50 <sebsebseb>	yeah
Aug 26 15:10:56 <sebsebseb>	what Apple got their ideas from
Aug 26 15:10:58 <cubevector>	sebsebseb, the one everybody copied
Aug 26 15:11:34 <sebsebseb>	yeah and people think Ubuntu is copying Mac OS X
Aug 26 15:11:36 <sebsebseb>	with the buttons on the left
Aug 26 15:11:45 <MinceR>	and it is
Aug 26 15:11:48 <cubevector>	Jookia, on fc1 the only way to update stuff is ./configure ; make all; make install
Aug 26 15:11:55 <Jookia>	Hahaha.
Aug 26 15:11:55 <sebsebseb>	MinceR: Xerox didn't have them on the left?
Aug 26 15:11:57 <cubevector>	no one supports fc1 now
Aug 26 15:11:57 <MinceR>	they even hired a crApple cultist as COO
Aug 26 15:12:01 <MinceR>	sebsebseb: dunno
Aug 26 15:12:03 <Jookia>	I see why package managers were invented.
Aug 26 15:12:15 <MinceR>	sebsebseb: but i doubt that the canonical guys know the Xerox Star system very well.
Aug 26 15:12:19 <cubevector>	use the source luke
Aug 26 15:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @stav @x11r5 Watch your language !bot boy. I am going to wash your mouth out with WD-40
Aug 26 15:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[silner/@silner] Stallman at Hell: #Gnu #Linux #BSD http://twitpic.com/2ie5jo :-) /by @ksaver via @webmaven
Aug 26 15:12:29 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Stallman at Hell: #Gnu #Linux #BSD on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 9.62 KB
Aug 26 15:12:32 <sebsebseb>	MinceR: yeah your on about Matt Assy or whatever hes called?  Whats C00 mean again?  Cheif Operating Systme Officor?
Aug 26 15:12:55 <sebsebseb>	I was thinking about the buttons last night or ealirer or whatever again
Aug 26 15:12:57 <sebsebseb>	thinking why
Aug 26 15:13:04 <sebsebseb>	well why can't Ubuntu do them on the left?
Aug 26 15:13:08 <MinceR>	sebsebseb: yes, Mac Asay
Aug 26 15:13:08 <sebsebseb>	Why should it only be Apple?
Aug 26 15:13:19 <Jookia>	Too bad Apple didn't patent it.
Aug 26 15:13:22 <sebsebseb>	and how certain users, will prefer on the left, because its less like Windows
Aug 26 15:13:29 <MinceR>	Chief Operati{ng,ons} Officer
Aug 26 15:13:47 <MinceR>	and yes, Xerox had them on the left side, but below the window caption and in text form, apparently
Aug 26 15:13:57 <sebsebseb>	as for the Gnome patching they done, I am not really keen on any of it, but
Aug 26 15:14:01 <MinceR>	(also, i suspect that's the same as the menu/toolbar thing)
Aug 26 15:14:04 <sebsebseb>	well they got to do something
Aug 26 15:14:17 <sebsebseb>	if Ubuntu was very much so like other distros,  they would lose more users?
Aug 26 15:14:23 <MinceR>	in GlobalView they switched to putting window controls on the right.
Aug 26 15:14:26 <MinceR>	http://toastytech.com/guis/indexxerox.html
Aug 26 15:14:28 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Xerox .::. Size~: 5.14 KB
Aug 26 15:14:41 <MinceR>	hm, it isn't so simple
Aug 26 15:14:49 <MinceR>	globalview for X has some button on the left
Aug 26 15:14:55 <MinceR>	(i'm guessing it's a menu)
Aug 26 15:15:09 <MinceR>	anyway, best look at the gallery yourself :)
Aug 26 15:15:13 <cubevector>	I think win95 might have had tabs and the bottom first
Aug 26 15:15:24 <cubevector>	tabs at the bottom
Aug 26 15:16:10 <MinceR>	dialog tabs?
Aug 26 15:16:11 <schestowitz>	[19:34] <MinceR> that novatech page pimps m$ crap so much it isn't even funny
Aug 26 15:16:16 <schestowitz>	That's their revenue source
Aug 26 15:16:22 <schestowitz>	Fake recommendations
Aug 26 15:16:35 <sebsebseb>	schestowitz: Fkea recommendations?
Aug 26 15:16:51 <cubevector>	if you look at early X it was pretty sparse:
Aug 26 15:16:55 <sebsebseb>	well yeah they got to make Windows seem good to make most of their profit
Aug 26 15:16:56 <sebsebseb>	,but
Aug 26 15:17:01 <sebsebseb>	its good they sell naked PC's as well :)
Aug 26 15:17:03 <cubevector>	http://maxhost.org/other/X-Window-System.png
Aug 26 15:17:04 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB
Aug 26 15:17:09 <schestowitz>	<p align="center">
Aug 26 15:17:11 <schestowitz>	<a href="http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Conficker-AGAIN-Affirmative.jpg"><img src="http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Conficker-AGAIN-Affirmative.jpg" alt="Conficker AGAIN - Affirmative" title="Conficker AGAIN - Affirmative" width="300" height="421" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-37585" /></a>
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Aug 26 15:17:12 <schestowitz>	</p>
Aug 26 15:17:14 <schestowitz>	<em><b>Summary</b>: Why the Spanair crash should serve as a warning to the world's biggest aviation establishments, which still use Windows in parts of their infrastructure</em>
Aug 26 15:17:15 <schestowitz>	<p class="dropcap-first"><a name="top">T</a>HE United States Federal Aviation Administration handles many domestic and international flights, not all of which reach their destination. Due to past failures at the FAA we wrote about the FAA's reliance on Windows [[cref 6626 1], [cref 4454 2], [cref 22413 3]] and suggested abandoning it. Now there is compelling proof that Windows can cause flights to crash (or fail to prevent crashes due
Aug 26 15:17:17 <schestowitz>	to malware). For those who don't know, Spanair is a Microsoft shop (their Web site, actual operations, among more things) and their crash was caused by malware, which impeded the regular procedures that would otherwise have aborted or delayed takeoff [[cref 37194 1], [cref 37369 2], [cref 37431 3], [cref 37455 4]].</p>
Aug 26 15:17:18 <schestowitz>	"Who dares using Windows in a critical environment?"
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Aug 26 15:17:40 <Jookia>	Ladies and gentlemen, that was Schestowitz!
Aug 26 15:17:42 *	Jookia applaudes.
Aug 26 15:17:43 <cubevector>	what's with the html :)
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Aug 26 15:18:18 <MinceR>	probably a mispaste.
Aug 26 15:18:18 <sebsebseb>	schestowitz: congratulatons you spammed your own channel
Aug 26 15:18:19 <schestowitz>	my bad
Aug 26 15:18:22 <sebsebseb>	schestowitz: and missed their responses
Aug 26 15:18:27 <Jookia>	Why do they even put Windows on space shuttles?
Aug 26 15:18:30 <sebsebseb>	spammed I mean flooded
Aug 26 15:18:37 <schestowitz>	Jookia: What I was gonna paste is not my next post
Aug 26 15:18:47 <Jookia>	schestowitz: I didn't say it was..
Aug 26 15:18:51 <schestowitz>	But to say gnu is also bigger than Linux
Aug 26 15:18:54 <schestowitz>	Lines of code
Aug 26 15:19:11 <cubevector>	this is what I meant by tabs at the bottom:
Aug 26 15:19:12 <cubevector>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Am_windows95_desktop.png
Aug 26 15:19:13 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: File:Am windows95 desktop.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 40.22 KB
Aug 26 15:19:19 <MinceR>	if you're using irssi, /server purge  also aborts big pastes
Aug 26 15:19:22 <Jookia>	How come that PNG works?
Aug 26 15:19:30 <MinceR>	afaik
Aug 26 15:19:37 <sebsebseb>	Right going away from computer for a bit
Aug 26 15:19:39 <sebsebseb>	back a bit later
Aug 26 15:19:44 <Jookia>	cubevector: Where are the bottom tabs?
Aug 26 15:19:45 <MinceR>	cubevector: oh, the taskbar
Aug 26 15:19:48 <cubevector>	File:
Aug 26 15:19:51 <cubevector>	yes
Aug 26 15:19:53 <MinceR>	cubevector: i think RISC OS had a similar panel earlier
Aug 26 15:19:58 <Jookia>	I don't really see what you mean.
Aug 26 15:20:22 <MinceR>	but if a similar area that can only hold iconized windows then even winblows 1.x qualifies
Aug 26 15:20:32 <MinceR>	s/then/qualifies &/
Aug 26 15:20:46 <MinceR>	cubevector: i mean Arthur, the precursor to RISC OS
Aug 26 15:20:47 <cubevector>	ok, let's see a pic of RISC OS
Aug 26 15:20:52 <cubevector>	oh ok
Aug 26 15:20:58 <cubevector>	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Am_windows95_desktop.png
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Aug 26 15:21:01 <MinceR>	but of course RISC OS inherited that from Arthur
Aug 26 15:21:06 <cubevector>	see? No File: in that URL
Aug 26 15:21:25 <MinceR>	(RISC OS also had the best place to put the main menus ever)
Aug 26 15:22:04 <cubevector>	ok, so who had the first taskbar I guess is the question
Aug 26 15:22:15 <MinceR>	i think Arthur, but i'm not sure.
Aug 26 15:22:57 <cubevector>	http://mobile.osnews.com/img/18941/arthur.gif
Aug 26 15:22:58 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/gif type .::. Size~: 0 KB
Aug 26 15:23:04 <cubevector>	found a picture of Arthur
Aug 26 15:23:20 <MinceR>	http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline2.html
Aug 26 15:23:22 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Graphical User Interface Timeline .::. Size~: 9.59 KB
Aug 26 15:23:50 <Jookia>	Ah, the things at top.
Aug 26 15:23:57 <Jookia>	I thought that was a Mac OS X thing
Aug 26 15:23:58 <MinceR>	the question is whether you consider the bottom area of winblows 1.x a "taskbar" or not
Aug 26 15:24:01 <Jookia>	I forgot Amiga existed
Aug 26 15:24:06 <cubevector>	Iconbar in Arthur-speak
Aug 26 15:24:09 <MinceR>	i wouldn't, since it isn't useful for switching between non-minimized windows.
Aug 26 15:24:23 <cubevector>	yeah Jookia, Amiga sort of died before you were born
Aug 26 15:24:33 <Jookia>	Heheh.
Aug 26 15:24:38 <Jookia>	I want an Amiga workbench theme for my computer.
Aug 26 15:24:44 <Jookia>	The yellow and blue. :3
Aug 26 15:24:50 <MinceR>	such things probably exist
Aug 26 15:25:14 <cubevector>	now I'd like to see some SunOS pics
Aug 26 15:25:49 <Jookia>	Someone should just do a YouTube video series of every single OS
Aug 26 15:25:56 <cubevector>	seems Sun isn't included on that page
Aug 26 15:26:09 <MinceR>	it's focused on GUIs
Aug 26 15:26:41 <Jookia>	http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbalto1.gif
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Aug 26 15:26:44 <MinceR>	http://toastytech.com/guis/indexunix.html
Aug 26 15:26:45 <Jookia>	Dear god that looks scary.
Aug 26 15:26:45 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Linux / Unix .::. Size~: 6.49 KB
Aug 26 15:26:48 <MinceR>	there are some sunos pics here
Aug 26 15:27:01 <Jookia>	It may just be me, but that photo terrifies me.
Aug 26 15:27:11 <MinceR>	they did have their own gui after all :)
Aug 26 15:27:19 <MinceR>	Jookia: perhaps the portrait oriented monitor?
Aug 26 15:27:32 <Jookia>	Could be that, could be that it's black and white, could be both
Aug 26 15:27:34 <cubevector>	yeah found one for early Sun:
Aug 26 15:27:36 <cubevector>	http://toastytech.com/guis/sv35iconmail.png
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Aug 26 15:27:44 <Jookia>	It looks like something from an old horror film, maybe
Aug 26 15:27:47 <Jookia>	That could be it.
Aug 26 15:28:01 <Jookia>	Maybe it's because it's black and white, before I was born and a portrait monitor.
Aug 26 15:28:09 <cubevector>	way before :)
Aug 26 15:28:30 <cubevector>	there should be jacob's ladder's and tesla coils in the background :)
Aug 26 15:28:46 <Jookia>	HA
Aug 26 15:29:17 <Jookia>	http://toastytech.com/guis/thumbperq.gif That looks less scary.
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Aug 26 15:29:34 <Jookia>	I think it's my fear of CRT screens, actually.
Aug 26 15:29:46 <cubevector>	colour makes a big difference
Aug 26 15:30:14 <Jookia>	CRT screens make me scared. :(
Aug 26 15:30:56 <Jookia>	Anybody else have the fear of them?
Aug 26 15:31:12 <gnufreex>	Scared of CRT?
Aug 26 15:31:14 <Jookia>	That they'll just explode from inside and the glass will smash out?
Aug 26 15:31:23 <Jookia>	Like at the end of Videodrome? :P
Aug 26 15:31:43 <gnufreex>	No... until now.
Aug 26 15:31:48 <gnufreex>	 You got me scared now.
Aug 26 15:31:52 <Jookia>	Woops.
Aug 26 15:31:58 <gnufreex>	Lol
Aug 26 15:32:01 <gnufreex>	I am kidding
Aug 26 15:32:05 <Jookia>	Hehe
Aug 26 15:32:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[schestowitz] Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and #NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt #GNU #Linux After #Spanair Findings http://ur1.ca/1a6ac
Aug 26 15:32:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[sjvn] Sometimes I just want to copy someone else's statutes, word for word, and see if they notice.
Aug 26 15:32:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[qu1j0t3] .@0r3z @qu1j0t3 #Capitalism != rape everyone and everything for profit. //theoretically maybe, but quote does describe *how it is practised*
Aug 26 15:32:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt GNU/Linux After Spanair Findings | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.35 KB
Aug 26 15:32:32 <gnufreex>	I have only one CRT... out of 3 computers in house
Aug 26 15:32:47 <gnufreex>	It is bad for eyes.
Aug 26 15:32:50 <cubevector>	my 17 year old CRT still works fine
Aug 26 15:33:02 <Jookia>	My brother has one of those giant CRT screens
Aug 26 15:33:08 <Jookia>	It scares the shit out of me when I enter the room.
Aug 26 15:33:21 <Jookia>	I just kinda duck behind something.
Aug 26 15:34:08 <cubevector>	I've used CRT's since the early 70's and never had one explode
Aug 26 15:34:09 -TRT/#techrights-	[slashdot] Making Ubuntu Look Like Windows 7 http://bit.ly/aUlYVP
Aug 26 15:34:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[nsisodiya] Biometrics Vulnerabilities & Exploits #NOUID #UID http://www.scribd.com/doc/36471798/delhi-20100825-100825103630-phpapp01
Aug 26 15:34:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Slashdot Linux Story | Making Ubuntu Look Like Windows 7 .::. Size~: 49.54 KB
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Aug 26 15:34:53 <Jookia>	Yeah but still
Aug 26 15:35:02 <Jookia>	I'm really afraid of heights too, I'm sure I have some weird childhood trauma
Aug 26 15:35:40 <schestowitz_log>	everyone is afraid of heights
Aug 26 15:35:47 <Jookia>	Some people aren't.
Aug 26 15:35:49 <schestowitz>	wrong window
Aug 26 15:35:51 <Jookia>	I know it's an instinct.
Aug 26 15:35:56 <Jookia>	But some people just aren't.
Aug 26 15:35:58 <schestowitz>	Those who are not will win Darwin award
Aug 26 15:36:05 <Jookia>	HAHA
Aug 26 15:36:07 <schestowitz>	But too much fear/pain is not good, either
Aug 26 15:36:14 <schestowitz>	Adventure taking is needed sometimes
Aug 26 15:36:17 <schestowitz>	Right balance is key
Aug 26 15:36:30 <Jookia>	Yeah.
Aug 26 15:36:34 <Jookia>	I have a horrible sense of balance.
Aug 26 15:36:35 <schestowitz>	pain is a defence mechanism, fear included (mental pain)
Aug 26 15:36:55 <schestowitz>	People who don't feel pain get back pain
Aug 26 15:36:59 <schestowitz>	Or lose their noses
Aug 26 15:37:15 <schestowitz>	That's the typical thing among lepers
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Aug 26 15:37:41 <cubevector>	awww, no arrrrrgghhhh?
Aug 26 15:37:54 <schestowitz>	http://twitpic.com/2ie5jo
Aug 26 15:37:55 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Stallman at Hell: #Gnu #Linux #BSD on Twitpic  .::. Size~: 9.62 KB
Aug 26 15:37:56 <schestowitz>	Hehe
Aug 26 15:37:56 <Jookia>	Ugh, I went to the darwin awards site and saw this
Aug 26 15:37:58 <Jookia>	""a man had to be cut from a steel pipe by seven firefighters when he  managed to get his penis stuck in it.  There is still no explanation of  how this occurred, though the article did say he could not be removed  from the pipe at first because his constricted blood-flow made him  aroused."
Aug 26 15:38:44 <Jookia>	I don't get that.
Aug 26 15:39:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[rcweir] Good to see discussions of cost savings from using ODF http://bit.ly/aoIjbP
Aug 26 15:39:12 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 98.06 KB
Aug 26 15:39:39 <Jookia>	£51m more for the pockets of the council then, eh?
Aug 26 15:40:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[nsisodiya] Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source http://gu.com/p/2j9m3/tw
Aug 26 15:40:14 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 98 KB
Aug 26 15:41:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[jonobacon] Great one-shot packaging guide by Mackenzie - http://is.gd/eFpMG #ubuntu
Aug 26 15:41:12 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Ubuntu Linux Tips & Tricks: Is packaging new software hard? .::. Size~: 136.56 KB
Aug 26 15:42:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[anivar] RT @BDUTT: one doesnt have to be a socialist to demand that the consent of village communities be taken before big business uproots triabls
Aug 26 15:45:09 -TRT/#techrights-	[jonobacon] Great update from Cimi on the recent Ubuntu theme work - http://is.gd/eFq7m #ubuntu
Aug 26 15:45:12 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Second update to the Ubuntu Light themes «  Canonical Design .::. Size~: 39.35 KB
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Aug 26 15:47:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @rcweir: Good to see discussions of cost savings from using ODF http://bit.ly/aoIjbP
Aug 26 15:47:30 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Councils 'could save at least £51m' with shift to ODF and open source | Technology | guardian.co.uk  .::. Size~: 97.89 KB
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Aug 26 15:51:56 <cubevector>	never realized X windows 1 through 6 was all monochrome
Aug 26 15:52:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and #NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt !GNU !Linux After #Spanair Findings http://ur1.ca/1a6ac
Aug 26 15:52:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @sjvn: Wi-Fi Convenient, but Dangerous http://is.gd/eFia4 How safe is your Wi-Fi? Not safe enough. I broke 28 of 40 corporate networks.
Aug 26 15:52:28 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and NASA Should Remove Windows, Adopt GNU/Linux After Spanair Findings | Techrights .::. Size~: 100.31 KB
Aug 26 15:52:31 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Wi-Fi Convenient, but Dangerous «  IT Expert Voice .::. Size~: 49.59 KB
Aug 26 15:53:59 <cubevector>	1986: Apple threatens to sue Digital Research because the GEM desktop looked too much like Apple's Macintosh
Aug 26 15:54:19 <cubevector>	didn't stop Apple from copying Xerox though eh?
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Aug 26 15:55:54 <cubevector>	Apple could be the most litigatious high tech company
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Aug 26 15:57:27 <balrog>	hey all ... anyone seen http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/26/mpegla_v_google/ ?
Aug 26 15:57:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @BreakingAndroid: Droid Incredible Now Expected to See Froyo Update Tomorrow http://bit.ly/9lteZR via http://topicfire.com/Android
Aug 26 15:57:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: Red Hat moves to make #Deltacloud an industry standard. #redhatcloud http://bit.ly/cecD5y
Aug 26 15:57:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] Using ATA Over Ethernet (AoE) On Ubuntu 10.04 (Initiator And Target) http://is.gd/eFqTG !gnu !linux !freesoftware !ubuntu
Aug 26 15:57:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] e-commerce solutions: OpenCart http://is.gd/eFr1x
Aug 26 15:57:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] Vyatta 6.1 Is Certified for IPv6  http://is.gd/eFr8b !vyatta
Aug 26 15:57:28 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: H.264 answers Google's open codec with forever free license* • The Register .::. Size~: 26.47 KB
Aug 26 15:57:29 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Droid Incredible Now Expected to See Froyo Update Tomorrow .::. Size~: 2.5 KB
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Aug 26 15:57:32 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Red Hat Deltacloud Aspires to Become an Industry Standard - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 30.23 KB
Aug 26 15:57:35 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Using ATA Over Ethernet (AoE) On Ubuntu 10.04 (Initiator And Target) | HowtoForge - Linux Howtos and Tutorials .::. Size~: 38.36 KB
Aug 26 15:57:42 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Upgrading OpenCart | Packt Publishing Technical & IT Book Store .::. Size~: 75.65 KB
Aug 26 15:57:44 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Vyatta 6.1 Is Certified for IPv6 - Softpedia .::. Size~: 44.64 KB
Aug 26 15:57:50 <balrog>	still not ideal :[
Aug 26 16:00:09 -TRT/#techrights-	[nsisodiya] Be-aware this is a fake website : http://olpcsouthasia.org/
Aug 26 16:00:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: OLPC «  OLPC South Asia .::. Size~: 14.95 KB
Aug 26 16:02:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] Iomega says its removable drives will be USB 3.0  http://is.gd/eFrgE
Aug 26 16:02:32 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:                     Iomega says its removable drives will be usb 3.0 - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 56.4 KB
Aug 26 16:03:08 <balrog>	lol iomega removable drives
Aug 26 16:07:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mozillanews: New Firefox Mobile versions http://ff.im/-pLqpd
Aug 26 16:07:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @chrisccoulson: Beta builds of #firefox 3.6.9 to http://is.gd/eFoQs for !ubuntu #hardy #jaunty #karmic and #lucid. Pls help test these
Aug 26 16:07:28 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: New Firefox Mobile versions «  Mozilla Add-ons Blog .::. Size~: 8.12 KB
Aug 26 16:07:35 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: PPA for Ubuntu Mozilla Security Team : “Ubuntu Mozilla Security Team” team .::. Size~: 23.85 KB
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Aug 26 16:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @linux_pro: VA Hospitals Embracing Open Source Medical Records System http://bit.ly/958wMm
Aug 26 16:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @pelegri: Sacha on the Google/Oracle - Worth a read - http://sacha.labourey.com/2010/08/16/orcl-vs-goog-hopefully-just-a-bad-timing/
Aug 26 16:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @bob_sutor: RT @IanSkerrett: Android development presentation at Eclipse Day http://twitpic.com/2idwf9
Aug 26 16:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] TeX4Ht supports #LaTeX to #ODF conversion but has some problems with #MathML: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html
Aug 26 16:12:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @RabelaisA11y: odt2braille User Guide now complete: http://bit.ly/aAinln (and we welcome volunteer translators) #a11y #braille #foss #odf
Aug 26 16:12:31 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: VA Hospitals Embracing Open Source Medical Records System - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 27.55 KB
Aug 26 16:12:32 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: ORCL vs. GOOG: hopefully just a bad timing « Sachas Weblog .::. Size~: 20.66 KB
Aug 26 16:12:33 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  Twitpic - Share photos on Twitter  .::. Size~: 9.5 KB
Aug 26 16:12:34 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Department of Computer Science and Engineering at the Ohio State University .::. Size~: 14.15 KB
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Aug 26 16:16:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[slashdot] Fire and Explosion At Hydrogen Station Near Rochester Airport http://bit.ly/c5NDU8
Aug 26 16:16:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Slashdot Technology Story | Fire and Explosion At Hydrogen Station Near Rochester Airport .::. Size~: 53.69 KB
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Aug 26 16:20:47 <oiaohm>	http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/08/arm-virtualization-tech-adds-more-fuel-to-server-fire.ars  schestowitz one step closer to choose your own OS phones.
Aug 26 16:20:49 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: ARM virtualization tech adds more fuel to server fire .::. Size~: 27.86 KB
Aug 26 16:21:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[thistleweb] Are Villa trying to get the fans to clean the seats to save them money? #squeakybumtime
Aug 26 16:21:11 <MinceR>	it would be nice to run a gnu/linux vm on my symbian os phone
Aug 26 16:25:44 <gnufreex>	http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2010/08/26/novell-fy-q3-misses/
Aug 26 16:25:45 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:   Novell FY Q3 Misses - Tech Trader Daily - Barrons.com .::. Size~: 57.45 KB
Aug 26 16:25:58 <gnufreex>	http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Novell-Reports-Financial-prnews-339494392.html?x=0&.v=1
Aug 26 16:26:01 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Novell Reports Financial Results for Third Fiscal Quarter 2010 - Yahoo! Finance .::. Size~: 244.83 KB
Aug 26 16:26:21 <gnufreex>	199m
Aug 26 16:26:22 <gnufreex>	Crap
Aug 26 16:26:29 <gnufreex>	That is too much
Aug 26 16:27:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @beginlinux: Learn how to use the UFW firewall http://tiny.cc/P6a2p
Aug 26 16:27:29 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Uncomplicated Firewall Linux Server Training .::. Size~: 71.79 KB
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Aug 26 16:29:18 <gnufreex>	WorkloadIQ™
Aug 26 16:29:22 <gnufreex>	Hahaha
Aug 26 16:29:36 <gnufreex>	“However, I am pleased that we achieved consistent profitability levels. The growth prospects of our target markets remain strong and our focus going forward is on returning to top line growth via execution of our differentiated strategy, WorkloadIQ™.”
Aug 26 16:29:40 <gnufreex>	Idiot.
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Aug 26 16:31:21 <schestowitz>	gnufreex: thanks, I'm on it already
Aug 26 16:31:58 <schestowitz>	I've been having some weird issues tonight
Aug 26 16:32:08 <schestowitz>	Never had them before... keyboard and network
Aug 26 16:32:16 <schestowitz>	CTRL+SHIDT key virtually pressed
Aug 26 16:32:26 <schestowitz>	Does anyone here use xchat?
Aug 26 16:32:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[openbytes/@openbytes] Power problems in village...off and on.
Aug 26 16:32:28 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @mairin: #NASA uses !fedora - http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2008/02/fedora-on-final-frontier.html
Aug 26 16:32:29 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: MadRhetoric: Fedora on the Final Frontier .::. Size~: 67.1 KB
Aug 26 16:32:36 <gnufreex>	I use Quassel
Aug 26 16:32:41 <oiaohm>	WorkloadIQ is abasically another freeipa competior.
Aug 26 16:32:43 <schestowitz>	I had to reboot
Aug 26 16:32:43 <_Goblin>	boo...
Aug 26 16:32:47 <oiaohm>	I use konversation
Aug 26 16:32:57 <_Goblin>	you know to be l33t you HAVE to use Irssi? ;)
Aug 26 16:33:16 <MinceR>	not icecap and not weechat? :>
Aug 26 16:33:16 <oiaohm>	I was a Irssi user many years ago.
Aug 26 16:33:18 <gnufreex>	Quassel crashed on me today. That never happens.
Aug 26 16:33:19 <_Goblin>	or BitchX
Aug 26 16:33:25 <gnufreex>	So I had issues too.
Aug 26 16:33:27 <MinceR>	or EPIC
Aug 26 16:33:29 <_Goblin>	oiaohm: Doesn't count ;)
Aug 26 16:33:29 <schestowitz>	Anyway, I lost an hour due to these problems
Aug 26 16:33:34 <MinceR>	or ircii ;)
Aug 26 16:33:38 <schestowitz>	And that's why I made that erroenous paste earlier
Aug 26 16:33:48 <schestowitz>	erroneous
Aug 26 16:34:43 <oiaohm>	http://www.thekonst.net/centericq/  Pitty this died.
Aug 26 16:34:45 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: thekonst.net :: program information :: centericq .::. Size~: 11.39 KB
Aug 26 16:35:00 <oiaohm>	Was my favorate texted based.
Aug 26 16:37:48 <MinceR>	there's still bitlbee and minbif :>
Aug 26 16:37:56 <MinceR>	(and irssi)
Aug 26 16:39:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[techdirt] Why Are Gay Porn Producers So Quick To Get Involved In Shakedown Copyright Pre-Settlement Schemes? http://dlvr.it/4JCt9
Aug 26 16:39:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[schestowitz] Quick Mention: Novell Report Disappoints, CEO Blames Takeover Bid http://ur1.ca/1a9a7 #takeover #Novell
Aug 26 16:39:12 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Why Are Gay Porn Producers So Quick To Get Involved In Shakedown Copyright Pre-Settlement Schemes? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 25.24 KB
Aug 26 16:39:13 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Quick Mention: Novell Report Disappoints, CEO Blames Takeover Bid | Techrights .::. Size~: 98.04 KB
Aug 26 16:39:56 <oiaohm>	http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/?action=browse;oldid=EmacsIRCClient;id=ERC  <<Anyone ever tried?
Aug 26 16:39:59 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: EmacsWiki: ERC .::. Size~: 31.85 KB
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Aug 26 16:41:03 <gnufreex>	I am interested to see how many people Novell fired. But they are not reporting that.
Aug 26 16:41:43 <gnufreex>	Red Hat adds about 100 people every quarter. And they are reporting it.
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Aug 26 16:42:33 <MinceR>	i've never tried ERC, but i remember seeing at least one user regularly who does use it
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Aug 26 16:50:29 <schestowitz>	cubevector: ping
Aug 26 16:56:58 <schestowitz>	cubezzz maybe?
Aug 26 16:58:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[sjvn] RT @TheTechScribe: Taking turns as open source bad guys http://bit.ly/cHktNE <- The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...
Aug 26 16:58:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[jwildeboer] RT @saschalobo Wo waren die Dachbesetzer, als die Landesbank ungefähr soviel Steuergeld brauchte wie der Bahnhof kostet? #S21
Aug 26 16:58:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Taking turns as open source bad guys .::. Size~: 38.45 KB
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Aug 26 17:03:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[sjvn] RT @MichaelSinger: Gmail Calling: Google's Bid to Rule Your Communications http://is.gd/eFwPU
Aug 26 17:03:14 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Internet Evolution - Alan Reiter - Gmail Calling: Google's Bid to Rule Your Communications .::. Size~: 216.67 KB
Aug 26 17:04:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[slashdot] MPEG LA Announces Permanent Royalty Moratorium For H264 http://bit.ly/brsNUF
Aug 26 17:04:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | MPEG LA Announces Permanent Royalty Moratorium For H264 .::. Size~: 47.89 KB
Aug 26 17:08:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[davidgerard] Apparently, homeopathic roadkill badger makes you randy. http://is.gd/eFx8g http://is.gd/eFxa3 #1023
Aug 26 17:08:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Meles meles meles: The Homœopathic Proving of The Western European Badger - Introduction .::. Size~: 16.73 KB
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Aug 26 17:11:27 <schestowitz>	Nobody here uses xchat then?
Aug 26 17:11:50 <ThistleWeb>	I do
Aug 26 17:12:09 <ThistleWeb>	^^ was a response to the last question, not an agreement for marriage ;P
Aug 26 17:12:09 <MinceR>	badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger MUSHROOM MUSHROOM
Aug 26 17:12:17 <schestowitz>	I missed logging 8:30 to 9:30 or so
Aug 26 17:12:45 <schestowitz>	In xchat's log format
Aug 26 17:13:04 <ThistleWeb>	I wasnt around for that time, I also hide the timestamps and dont log
Aug 26 17:13:25 <ThistleWeb>	<gnufreex> I am interested to see how many people Novell fired. But they are not reporting that.  << thats my first comment since I came back in
Aug 26 17:16:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[sjvn] How Hardware Is Helping Server, Desktop System Virtualization by @DanielDern http://is.gd/eFxYb
Aug 26 17:16:12 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title:  How Hardware Is Helping Server, Desktop System Virtualization | Dell  .::. Size~: 33.38 KB
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Aug 26 17:20:57 <schestowitz>	ThistleWeb: or how many to pass to Asia
Aug 26 17:21:16 <ThistleWeb>	you lost me
Aug 26 17:21:29 <gnufreex>	schestowitz: Hehe. Yes, they are moving to India.
Aug 26 17:21:43 <ThistleWeb>	oh gotcha
Aug 26 17:23:09 <schestowitz>	I think I'll see if I can merge the logs I have... I had to reboot also to check new X settings anyway.
Aug 26 17:26:53 <gnufreex>	Market Cap:
Aug 26 17:26:53 <gnufreex>	RHT 6.53B  http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:RHT
Aug 26 17:26:53 <gnufreex>	NOVL 1.97B  http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:NOVL
Aug 26 17:26:54 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Red Hat, Inc.: NYSE:RHT quotes & news - Google Finance .::. Size~: 70.94 KB
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Aug 26 17:29:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[schestowitz] #Microsoft AstroTurfer Jonathan Zuck (ACT) Falsely Represents Small European Businesses, Other #RAND Pushers Named http://ur1.ca/1ab09
Aug 26 17:29:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Microsoft AstroTurfer Jonathan Zuck (ACT) Falsely Represents Small European Businesses, Other RAND Pushers Named | Techrights .::. Size~: 106.56 KB
Aug 26 17:39:48 <cubevector>	hmm?
Aug 26 17:40:57 <cubevector>	no for IRC I've used naim, irssi and/or xchat
Aug 26 17:41:21 <schestowitz>	cubevector: can you mail me logs from the past 3 hours, please?
Aug 26 17:41:27 <cubevector>	and of course KDE has KSirc
Aug 26 17:41:29 <schestowitz>	I'll need to merge some
Aug 26 17:41:44 <cubevector>	ummm ok
Aug 26 17:41:48 <schestowitz>	The format isn't crucial, I just want to keep the logs complete
Aug 26 17:41:56 <schestowitz>	Thanks
Aug 26 17:42:09 <cubevector>	so from 2 pm I suppose
Aug 26 17:42:09 -TRT/#techrights-	[sjvn] Why Firefox 4 is now the browser to beat by @pgralla http://bit.ly/cTw0ff
Aug 26 17:42:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Why Firefox 4 is now the browser to beat - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 58.56 KB
Aug 26 17:42:22 <cubevector>	I was down for a while but I think I have the last 3 hours
Aug 26 17:42:27 -TRIdentica/#techrights-	[silner/@silner] So what's the time line for !Pino? Is the next major release 0.3, or is it all incremental, right up to 1.0?
Aug 26 17:42:29 <schestowitz>	cubevector: yeah, also for the other channel
Aug 26 17:46:10 -TRT/#techrights-	[slashdot] Pentagon Confirms 2008 Computer Breach — 'Worst Ever' http://bit.ly/cTkfBQ
Aug 26 17:46:11 <TechrightsBot-tr>	Title: Slashdot IT Story | Pentagon Confirms 2008 Computer Breach &mdash; 'Worst Ever' .::. Size~: 50.77 KB
Aug 26 17:47:49 <cubevector>	I only have back to 15:00
Aug 26 17:47:57 <cubevector>	so the last 2 hours 44 minutes