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Aug 26 15:03:07 <schestowitz>	doesn't matter, they'll spin it either way
Aug 26 15:09:12 <gnufreex>	schestowitz: Are they gona report this today..? It looks like it is too low, so Hovsapian is thinking what to say.  Stock is sliding down, 5.66 now. 
Aug 26 15:13:09 <cubevector>	heh, funny
Aug 26 15:13:20 <cubevector>	oops wrong channel tab :)
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Aug 26 15:58:29 <Diablo-D3>	http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/oIgf-2m1oGc/mpeg-la-counters-google-webm-with-permanent-royalty-moratorium.ars
Aug 26 15:58:31 <Diablo-D3>	what.
Aug 26 15:58:32 <TechrightsBot>	Title: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.49 KB
Aug 26 16:02:00 <MinceR>	still not equal to WebM, still not free
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Aug 26 16:18:46 <Diablo-D3>	MinceR: no, that isnt what
Aug 26 16:18:50 <Diablo-D3>	what the fuck are they doing
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Aug 26 16:20:29 <MinceR>	trying to hold the web hostage, as always
Aug 26 16:20:40 <MinceR>	and to hold media and users hostage
Aug 26 16:20:55 <Diablo-D3>	theres no profit i nthat
Aug 26 16:21:48 <oiaohm>	If you mean microsoft yes there is profit in holding the web hostage.
Aug 26 16:22:05 <oiaohm>	That is if they can of course.
Aug 26 16:22:46 <MinceR>	if they can make sure h.264 remains widespread, they can keep taxing it
Aug 26 16:23:03 <MinceR>	and yes, m$ is a member of the mpeg-la cartel
Aug 26 16:23:10 <oiaohm>	h.264 not as good.
Aug 26 16:23:32 <oiaohm>	Only works in patent effected countries.
Aug 26 16:24:11 <oiaohm>	Also lot of key h.264 patents are reaching end of life.
Aug 26 16:26:47 <MinceR>	so they're promoting non-key patents to "essential" status. :>
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Aug 26 16:30:25 <oiaohm>	Yep.
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Aug 26 16:30:56 <oiaohm>	Ok with the key patents h.264 might not look as good as with the essential but it still plays.
Aug 26 16:31:12 <MinceR>	and users are still gullible
Aug 26 16:31:20 <oiaohm>	That is the problem h.264 will face in the next 3 years.
Aug 26 16:31:30 <MinceR>	and m$ and crApple still keep forcing h.264 on users
Aug 26 16:31:33 <oiaohm>	ie looking really bad when played back on particular things.
Aug 26 16:31:37 <MinceR>	especially crApple
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